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January 17, 2025

TikTok Ban Drives Brand Interest to Chinese Video App RedNote: Will Retail Sales Follow?

With the United States Supreme Court having ruled unanimously in favor of enforcement of the TikTok ban via the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, it appears the extremely popular social media platform’s days are numbered. In fact, barring a very quick sale to an American party, ByteDance will be forced to withdraw from the U.S. market by Jan. 19.

The impending ban has, according to Modern Retail, spurred a significant brand expansion into an entirely different Chinese app focused on short-form video content: RedNote — also known as Xiaohongshu, or “little red book” in Mandarin.

NBA, The North Face, Arc’teryx, and Other Brands Make a Splash on RedNote

American users appear to be flocking to RedNote in advance of the potential TikTok ban, with the former being the most downloaded app for the iPhone this week, per Modern Retail. Further, Duolingo is reporting a whopping 216% increase in people attempting to learn Mandarin Chinese versus the same time period a year ago.

But individual users aren’t the only ones making an appearance on RedNote. According to SportBusiness, the NBA has made a full-court press to join the Chinese social media platform ahead of other major sports leagues. And as Gripped pointed out, several climbing and outdoor adventure brands are also enjoying a presence on the platform, including high-profile examples such as The North Face and Arc’teryx.

RedNote Poses Several Barriers to Actual Retail Sales, Both for Established Brands and Independent Sellers

Not everything about RedNote is as promising as it might appear at first glance, however.

Modern Retail profiled several entrepreneurs who spoke to the difficulties they faced when attempting to actually sell products via the app.

Lisa Guerrera, founder of TikTok-viral beauty brand Experiment, recently signed up for RedNote. And while Guerrera found that the platform may offer the ability to increase her brand’s visibility and reach — and is, according to her, a great place to enjoy and share memes — she remained unconvinced of its current capabilities in terms of acting as a sales platform.

“I would have no idea how to formally sell anything on RedNote, and I imagine we’re probably not even capable of doing so, frankly,” she said. “I’m just trying to figure out what’s going on.”

Gabriella Scaringe, founder of underwear brand Cherri (which boasts over 700,000 TikTok followers), also placed her brand on RedNote this week. Her take, from a business perspective, on RedNote seems to mesh with Guerrera’s.

“My experience on RedNote hasn’t been great. Besides the language barrier, as most of the app is not translated, it is not a place where I can advertise my business based on the terms and conditions,” Scaringe said, gesturing toward the nature of the product she is selling, and the advertising method employed to do so. RedNote, as Scaringe indicated, has strict rules regarding content.

Juozas Kaziukėnas, founder of Marketplace Pulse, was concise in his critical assessment of RedNote’s potential to rival TikTok from a sales perspective.

“RedNote is a blink of a moment, like a small, knee-jerk reaction thing,” he said. “It’s not going to be the place for TikTok users to go and somehow continue doing their thing.” 

Language Barrier Persists, and RedNote Itself May Face the Same Treatment as TikTok in the Future

There are other issues surrounding the adoption of RedNote, as Slate underscored. First is the significant language barrier: As RedNote isn’t designed with English speakers in mind, most content is entirely presented in Mandarin.

“It’s clear that none of this is localized for non-Mandarin speakers at all; that could make it more complicated for users who can’t read Mandarin characters (especially as Mandarin is a language entirely of memorization, rather than of phonetics). The logo, reading Xiaohongshu in Mandarin, has no Pinyin (romanized pronunciation) for foreigners to learn pronunciation, and many of the captions you see on the homepage are still entirely in Mandarin,” Slate’s Steffi Cao wrote, before noting that the flood of newcomers and increased ratio of English subtitles was impressive and helpful.

Finally, it’s completely unclear what the future holds for RedNote in the American context. Given that it is a Chinese-owned app, the likelihood of it joining TikTok as a banned platform seems fairly high.

However, with President-elect Donald Trump signaling that he may push to delay the ban as he takes office, all things remain somewhat in limbo. Industry analysts and social media fans alike may have to wait a bit longer to see how this drama plays out.

Discussion Questions

Will RedNote make a significant impact on the U.S. market? Which brands will flourish, and what segments will struggle to find an audience?

How likely is it that RedNote will face the same legal scrutiny that TikTok has? Will President Trump halt or rescind the ban on TikTok, and if so, will RedNote be treated in equal fashion?

Does TikTok’s, and now RedNote’s, popularity with younger generations signal anything more than an appetite for amusing short-form content (and trendy sales pitches)?

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Neil Saunders

The fact that people have been driven from a Chinese-owned social media platform with servers in the US to a Chinese-owned platform with servers in China shows how asinine the ban on TikTok is. As usual, our political class is absolutely clueless. But to get to the question: if TikTok shuts down, then there will be a huge amount of revenue from TikTok Shop up for grabs. I suspect some will find its way to RedNote, which has a very integrated approach to commerce and shopping. Although the language barrier may be an issue, initially. A lot of platforms will be making a play for the slice of the pie TikTok will be forced to give up. 

Last edited 9 months ago by Neil Saunders
Gene Detroyer
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Reply to  Neil Saunders

“Asinine” is a good word for this decision. Hopefully, Trump reversesit today.

Neil Saunders
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Reply to  Gene Detroyer

Well a 75 day extension is better than nothing, I guess!

David Biernbaum

There will be no ban on TikTok. For one, President Trump is passionate about TikTok, and has stated he will extend the deadline 90 days, to allow time for Elon, or someone else, to acquire it.

Oddly enough, TikTok is important in America, and here are some reasons.

1) U.S. brands use the platform for inexpensive advertising, marketing, and influencers, with phenomenal results.

2) The platform helps young people build resourcefulness, creativity, imagination, build relationships and contacts on a global basis.

3) The platform, the app, offer excellent visual and sound quality, and frankly, much better than any other platform.

China has numerous ways to spy on us and collect information, other than TikTok. Removing TikTok from the U.S. will accomplish very little in that regard.

Even if TikTok were removed from the U.S., it would be relatively easy for people to use it through other countries and sources.

Last edited 9 months ago by David Biernbaum
Gene Detroyer
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Removing TikTok will not do “very little” for national security. It will do “nothing” for national security. China is significantly more competent than that.

Michael Zakkour
Michael Zakkour

Red Note is a stripped-down version of Xiaohongshu (Little Red Book), a very popular review, social commerce, and shopping site in China. The only people “flocking there” were TikTokers looking to “protest” the ban. It is NOT set up for mass sales/consumption in the US.

Mark Ryski

The apparent RedNote stampede won’t last long. It’s understandable that creators and brands are hedging their bets by joining RedNote, but it’s simply not ready for US prime time. Furthermore, it sounds like TikTok is getting a last-minute reprieve from the incoming, tech/business friendly administration, so I wouldn’t count TikTok out yet.   

Mark Self
Mark Self

The incoming President apparently is going to roll back the TikTok ban so RedNote’s 15 minutes of fame will be short lived.

Last edited 9 months ago by Mark Self
ReneeHartmann
ReneeHartmann

Red Note (aka Little Red Book or RED or Xiao Hong Shu) will not make a major impact on the US market. Not only is it a Mainland Chinese app (which means it abides by Mainland China content rules), but it is not even optimized to sell a lot in China, much less in the US. It’s an amazing place for Chinese consumers to track trends and share authentic insights, but aside from a novelty for US users, it won’t make a major impact as its really not set up for English speakers or the US landscape. It is interesting for brands to see it though, as there is no clear look alike in the US, and the US social landscape is missing an outlet like this – Pinterest X Instagram X TikTok with a dash of trend spotting and zeitgeist that is not present in the US at all.

Jeff Sward

The article itself basically says that RedNote is a non-starter, so it’s a little difficult to get worked up about this particular issue. Seems like there is a much bigger issue at hand. The whole relationship between business and government. There was a law passed…360-58 in the House and 79-18 in the Senate. (How many laws pass by that margin?) And then upheld by the Supreme Court. However asinine or legitimate the law is, it’s a law…on the books. And a president, any president, can just push the pause button? Really…?!? Since when? It’s ludicrous that it has gotten to this point. Were the security concerns total BS? They picked the eve of a presidential transition as the deadline? People who were all in for the ban are now cheerleaders for the platform, ’cause free speech ya know. If it all wasn’t so scary about the total ineptitude of everybody involved, it would be humorous.

Craig Sundstrom
Craig Sundstrom
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Reply to  Jeff Sward

“We are not amused”

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"The only people “flocking there” were TikTokers looking to “protest” the ban. It is NOT set up for mass sales/consumption in the US."
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Michael Zakkour

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"Seems like there is a much bigger issue at hand. The whole relationship between business and government."
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"It’s understandable that creators and brands are hedging their bets by joining RedNote, but it’s simply not ready for US prime time."
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